Gasthaus Perlacher Hof in München

Were there for a celebration. Service 10/10 Great food, huge portions BUT the red cabbage could be on the plate and not in a separate bowl. All in all we (6 people) were very satisfied.

Were there for lunch. Surprisingly good and the lunch menu includes a rich schnitzel with fries for €10. This is almost unbeatable. I'd love to come back!

Very good cuisine, friendly service

Food was just warmed up, not good and way too expensive. Drinks are also far too expensive here at €5.30 for beer and €5.30 for juice spritzer. We are here on the outskirts of Neuperlach and not in the city center of Munich. Corona is over and purchasing prices are back to normal. So why is it becoming more and more expensive here at short intervals?

Idyllic place with beautiful old chestnut trees. But when it comes to the rather poor quality of the food, both Bavarian and Styrian, coupled with absolutely disproportionately high prices, we unfortunately had to realize that the price-performance ratio wasn't right and our visit here was a total failure. Even in many top restaurants in the best locations in the city center, I regularly pay well under €5 for half a beer. Sometimes even under €4. The same applies to non-alcoholic drinks. Here we paid a utopian € 5.30 per drink for 3 light drinks, 1 shandy and 2 juice spritzers! That's €31.80 just for drinks, so we lost the desire for a second beer. I don't know who cooks there and whether he has learned the trade, but in any case the roast pork had only been warmed up quickly, but not really hot, the crust was soft and flabby on the meat. This is quite typical if you buy the crust separately and it doesn't come from the roast itself. Here, not a single roast had the crust still on the meat. In any case, this meal was in no way worth the high price of almost €20. During such a tour, the thought arises as to whether the landlady doesn't care at all whether guests come because customer satisfaction doesn't seem to be of any importance. So it's just a matter of time before another restaurant closes.

To put it briefly: Ambience and location were nice, service was also good, food, although we had different dishes to compare, was of poor to very poor quality. Portion size is economical, prices are totally outrageous and unrealistic. Prices for the drinks are horrendous for the outskirts of the city. Unfortunately, the landlady does not respond at all to legitimate complaints. Unfortunately, I will stay here when visiting. Of course, with hindsight we are always wiser, we should have looked at the reviews beforehand. Unfortunately we don't recommend it.

Were here on Sunday for the first time since the reopening and will definitely be back! Great ambience, very friendly service and one of the best roasts we have ever eaten :)

A very nice Bavarian guest house and restaurant. The food was delicious and the service excellent, it really makes you feel at home.

Very tasty regional cuisine and delicious draft beer. Very fast and friendly service.

Simply good food and friendly service, we can recommend it, nice little beer garden

Hello, we once had veal schnitzel and I had a knuckle. The veal schnitzel was far too thin and in our opinion, it was not veal schnitzel, but pork and had bad taste. My knuckle wasn't crispy but limp and didn't taste good. When the staff (boss) asked about it, they wanted to convince us of its good quality. Cook has missed his job. We would also have to pay money for the parking space in front of the restaurant, it is private.

Secret tip near Pfanzeltplatz Top food Top hospitality with first-class employees Weather that day (summer) Old chestnut garden pleasant shade place On Saturday evening with a very careful, super friendly, nice employee (service) Drunk dark 🍺 So the next day we had lunch for two

Delicious food, good drinks and super friendly staff. Gladly again...

Actually everything was OK so far. We just sat in the beer garden. Munich is not cheap. Unfortunately the geraniums were dried out, hence the point deduction.

Spontaneously eaten deliciously, very nice service (waiter cuts schnitzel into small pieces on request 😅), thank you very much, we will definitely come back 👍

Very good food and very friendly service

Beautiful little beer garden in Munich.

The Schweinbraten is excellent - I have had it 4 times now and looking forward to the 5th! Nice German restaurant with big beer garden in the summer.

Good Austrian cuisine, yes. But unfortunately the store continues to downsize. The staff changes faster and faster and some of them are unfriendly. But the prices are becoming more and more outrageous. Unfortunately you don't see me there very often anymore because the prices in the city center have gone up.

Shrimp were unpeeled and had to be peeled out of the shell with your fingers when eating. When paying, the waiter discussed the amount of the tip and argued that his service deserved a higher tip, despite the lack of shrimp.

Wij hebben heerlijk buiten gezeten met bier en Wie er Schnitzel. En als nagerecht een echte apfelstrudel. Absoluut een aanrader. Mooie locatie, leuke bediening en lekker eten.

Very nice, cozy, small beer garden, which is basically an insider tip. Super nice service and delicious food!

To charge 17.80 euros for HALF an over-salted roast pork with too much beer taste is outrageous... especially since the waiter confirmed it. NEVER AGAIN....

We (two adults, four children) went in and first had to look around for the waiters. I then interrupted two chattering men who looked like service staff and asked if they were in charge here. They said yes and told us that they also had ice cream. They brought the ice cream menu but continued chatting, which I didn't think was a bad thing. I then just got up and grabbed the menu because I wanted to order something to eat too. We ordered drinks, a raspberry curd strudel and children's ice cream with different flavors. I also asked him if he wanted to write it down because I know how hard it can be to remember different varieties. He said, “No, I’ll remember that,” and hissed off. The result was that he brought the wrong ice cream three times and then complained that we kept changing our orders. When I pointed out to him that I had asked him if he wanted to write it down, he said, “You’re not yelling at me. You go in and sit down” (I didn’t scream). I then said that I wanted the bill straight away and went in. He came out and said, "I'm canceling the ice cream and then you leave." To my "Excuse me?" he countered, "There's no excuse for you" and walked out. The children were on the verge of crying. I went out and asked if he was the supervisor. He replied, "It does for you." When I located the supervisor and explained the situation to her, she brought us the ice cream and saved the situation. But she also explained to me that he was a very good waiter and that it must be a matter of communication. Honestly, an experienced waiter doesn't throw out his guests because he isn't able to serve them properly, and a good boss doesn't let such behavior get away with it

Negativ: Kalbsschnitzel mit Kartoffelsalat. Euro 27,70. Schnitzel einigermaßen ok. Kartoffelsalat schmeckt säuerlich und wie aus dem Eimer. Kein Beilagensalat und keine Preiselbeeren - muss extra bezahlt werden. Negativ: Salatteller mit Hühnerbrust auf der Mittagskarte. Salat lieblos angemacht, will heißen geschmacksneutral. Präsentiert in einer essbaren Schale, die nach absolut nichts schmeckte. Negativ: Wein, Grüner Veltliner, Euro 7,40 für 0,2 l Positiv: netter Biergarten unter Bäumen und eine nette Bedienung Preise dieser Stadtteil-Wirtschaft wie in der Münchner Innenstadt, nur in schlechterer Qualität. Schade, wir werden dort nicht mehr einkehren.

Had breakfast and lunch/dinner here with my company. The staff is nice and the food tastes very good. Unfortunately it quickly became very loud inside and with larger groups it also gets very loud. But I can only recommend it for a smaller group.

We were there with 8 people (4 adults, 4 kids) a few days ago. There are play options for the little ones, which was relaxing. The dog was not offered water. The beer garden was moderately busy, the food was served quickly but only moderately good, the duck, for example, was tough and only lukewarm. Two gentlemen were moderately motivated in service. We paid 180 euros, which we divided among ourselves. For the second couple, the waiter had already typed the remaining amount into the EC terminal a little prematurely, and was then informed that this meant that you could only give a few euros of coins as a tip. He then made a disgusted face and refused the coins (a few euros) with the comment "I can't buy anything with that either." The beer garden has a fly problem. It was not possible to eat in peace. The waiter made snide jokes about it when it was pointed out to him.

Very friendly service, good atmosphere, great food and cold beer...

Delicious food, a mix of Bavarian and Austrian. Nice little beer garden.

A nice Bavarian restaurant with a beer garden and a small playground. Delicious food, great atmosphere

The food was not good and not fresh made. The panade of the Wiener Schnitzel was wet and oily. The potatoes salad tasted like from Aldi and was so hot like warmed in the microwave. My brozeitteller showed sausage and Obatzter as from a discounter. And tasted accordingly. The fish ( salmon) was overcooked. The parfait tasted like been frozen for a long time and lacked mango as promised in the menu card. Food in a bavarian beer garden must be fresh from a local butcher and not taste after discounter. The escalope milanesa (wiener schnitzel) was a total no go.

As always worth a visit. The prices have gone up a bit but where not.

Nice beer garden and nice Bavarian service, just a little expensive

Grundsätzlich waren die Hauptgerichte lecker, aber wie schon in anderen Rezessionen zu lesen, waren die Schweinebratenscheiben ultta dünn. Was leider gar nicht ging war die Nachspeise: Marillenknödel. Diese waren geschmacklich und von der Konsistenz her unterirdisch. Niemals waren das selbstgemachte sondern ein sehr schlechtes convenience Produkt, eventuell auch schon über der Haltbarkeit? Es schmeckte etwas „käsig“ … sehr schade 😞

Poor customer service, I was with some friends today, they had to change tables, not in a friendly way, in an arrogant way, they never gave us a letter to be able to order, they wanted to charge us for a beer that they didn't have Once brought to our table, the cellars said things to us with a bit of arrogance, I hope someone can take action on the matter.

Nice restaurant with a beer garden

Food was very good. Would love to come back.

Food mediocre but not cheap. Service rather inattentive. Waited 10 minutes for ketchup with the meal, beer was forgotten. Ambiance is good.

This fine, cozy beer garden and the inn in the old Perlach are a gem. The food is great, the team is courteous, attentive and very nice. We have been guests for years and always enjoy our time at the Perlacher Hof!

The inn leaves me with a somewhat heterogeneous impression. Very nice beer garden with gravel and mighty chestnuts. Good wines although I only tried 2. The service was always available and unobtrusive. But the food was described by all friends as not being appropriate for the prices. If you know the cuisine in Austria, a fried chicken looks different than this chicken that was hit by a truck. I've also had spicier salad dressings. As an ambassador for Styria you should offer more.

Very nice person, very pleasant

Ended up here on a warm evening to watch the UEFA 24 football in the biergarten. Despite being busy, service was fast and competent and the food tasty.

Very nice restaurant with beer and full service restaurant, outside and inside. Delicious and vegetarian food too. Great service.

We had pork knuckle baked in dark beer. Delicious meal... and the waiter was dressed in traditional Bavarian clothes. Wich was great.

We were there for dinner in the evening The service was very friendly. We ordered simple dishes. Nuremberg sausages with sauerkraut, the quality was poor, the sausages were not properly burned and lukewarm, the sauerkraut tasted like it had been warmed up 10 times and didn't taste good. The Leberkäs with potato salad, so mediocre, the homemade salad tasted like it came out of a bucket, made from too much vinegar, the 2 slices of Leberkäs were cut much too thin, a shame How would the onion roast taste for 31 euros? We won't try it.

Very cozy beer garden with very good food. I had the Wiener Schnitzel with fried potatoes and the apple strudel, I can fully recommend it!

It was great, we'll be back. Prices are a bit high

It's been a while since we were last there. Now it will really be the last time. If the two of you can't quickly hand out menus to new guests as they pass by, something is wrong. You can also dare to ask for drinks. Clear job failure. There is clearly a lack of appeal here. The beer garden was by no means overflowing with guests. On the contrary - absolutely manageable. The food was really ok the first time. The service was already bad back then. Our waiter was arguing loudly with a guest. We were probably just unlucky with the local team both times. But sorry, if I did my job like that, I would already be rid of him. No thank you.

This inn is truly fantastic. He fed us at 3pm with no problem. Typical Bavarian cuisine. Nice and kind staff

Really above-average nice and courteous service! Thanks :)

Very good food and the service was relaxed and quite friendly.

Home-style tavern cuisine with fair prices, there's nothing to complain about in terms of taste. Service very friendly.

Very good Austrian food, very friendly and attentive staff, beer garden bright or shady depending on the position of the sun, good advice on schnapps, thank you

Beautiful shop, with excellent food. Always my pleasure

We really enjoyed the food and the service was friendly.

Pretty tasty food. I've been there many times for dinner or lunch, but the street right next to it is a bit annoying because there are always loud cars driving along and you can smell them too.

Bavarian inn. Ambience not very quaint. Different tables. Decoration pretty bare. On Sunday it was almost empty at the best time in the evening (6:15 p.m. - 7:15 p.m.). Service: We chose our own seats because the waitress was smoking (right next to the door). The food came within 9 minutes of ordering (Munich Schitzel and roast pork). The question as to whether everything was right came with the last bite. When the bill was presented, the waitress said: “It’s pretty expensive, isn’t it?” Food: Quick cooking is great (9 minutes), but if you heat up roast pork (€17.00) and keep dumplings warm, the food should be hot inside. Unfortunately, our dish was completely cold after about 5 minutes. Portion size was sufficient. The Munich schnitzel (€19.90) with fried potatoes was good in terms of craftsmanship and taste. Beaten too well, as the thickest part was only approx. 3 mm. Breading was usually thicker than the meat. Basically breaded carpaccio 😃. We ate up because we were hungry and didn't feel like looking for the waitress to discuss the food with her. Value for money: 2.5/5

Classic restaurant serving German Bavarian cuisine. Everything was delicious. Stopped by on the way to Italy. I was completely satisfied, the food arrived quickly. The restaurant has a summer terrace.

I had to make a reservation for 20 people at short notice. Worked great. Very friendly waitresses. The roast pork was really tasty. I would like to come back privately. Thanks

Nice staff, delicious food. I'll be back whenever I'm in Munich!

Food was very good Service - super nice Ambiance - Bavarian ;-) There is also a cozy beer garden in summer.

We were there for Boxing Day and really enjoyed the food. It's not cheap but definitely worth the price! We'd love to come back!

Very nice economy. Extremely friendly waiter. Delicious food. All around good Bavarian cuisine.

Top. Super delicious food & great staff, we are regular and happy guests.

Really extremely expensive. Food medium standard. Portions really very small. You can also save yourself.

Another typical Bavarian restaurant with super friendly service!

Essen war gut.Die Bedienung war aufdringlich und hat ständig nachgefragt ob man noch was will.

Uriges Wirtshaus, mit zuvorkommender Bedienung und gutem Essen

Gut bürgerliche Küche mit Österreichischer Färbung bei nettem Service.

Excellent environment. Beautiful place, nice people. Great food

Schnelle, freundliche Bedienung, Essen ok, bayerisches Ambiente, sehr zu empfehlen.

Juste magnifique, une place à visiter. Traditions respectées, bonne ambiance et service excellent

Sehr gutes Essen und netter, aufmerksamer Service. Sehr empfehlenswert.

Echt österreichisch! So müssen Schnitzel schmecken!

Herausragend gute Küche und Service

5.10 Euro Eine halbe Bier Meine lieben einfach zu teuer

Gutes Essen, freundliches Personal.

Eine sehr schöne Gaststätte in Alt-Perlach mit einem schattigen Biergarten. Nachdem der Wirt ja österreichische Wurzeln (Steiermark) hat, habe ich mich auf das *"Original"* Wiener Schnitzel gefreut. Leider wurde ich hier ziemlich enttäuscht. Ein wirklich gutes Wiener Schnitzel macht ja nicht nur das Kalbfleisch, sondern auch die ganz spezielle Art der Zubereitung aus. Das Schnitzel sollte schwimmend in Butterschmalz ausgebacken werden, damit es durchgehend eine goldbraune Farbe enthält. Das High-Light wäre dann noch, wenn die Panade richtig "aufgeht" und Blasen wirft. Leider war dieses Schnitzel offenbar nur in einer Pfanne gebraten worden, die Panade war beim schneiden bröselig. Also irgendwie weit weg vom Original. Schade. Dann muss ich doch wieder nach Wien um ein wirklich originales Wiener Schnitzel zu geniessen. Positiv war der Service, die Jungs waren freundlich und flott.

Sehr schönes Gasthaus . Sehr schöner Biergarten . Lecker essen und sehr guter Service

Sehr lecker! Das Bratenpfanderl ist ein Traum! 🤤

Toller Biergarten, super Essen, netter Service.

Gute Bayerische Küche. So wie es sein soll.

Durchwachsen mit viel Luft nach oben, absolute Frechheit Bedienung steht am Tresen und lästert so laut über die Kundschaft, man kann sich seine Kunden nicht aussuchen, aber so von oben herab, seit froh das Kunden überhaupt ins Lokal kommen für mittleres Essen, Knödel versalzen, Salatblätter teils braun und unappetitlich, Kässpatzen zerkocht. Dafür das so mancher schon über 20 Jahre bei euch Kunde ist. Der heutige Versuch war enttäuschend 26.08.2023

Hat scho passt! Essen war gut, jedoch spartanische Portionen... muß eh net überfüllt sein, normal würd scho reichen. Aber guat woars trozdem. Vui guat. I kimmat wieder amoi.

Le "Zurich" gulasch est en fait une blanquette de veau!😂

Bester Schweinebraten der Stadt. Schöner Biergarten mit altem Kastanienbaumbestand, kleinem Spielplatz und den üblichen Schmankerln. Aufmerksamer Service, gutes Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis

Nous avons très bien mangé, plat traditionnel de la région

Der Perlacher Hof ist echt ein schönes Gasthaus. Innen ist es rustikal eingerichtet. Der Biergarten hat genau das richtige Flair mit den Tischen, Stühlen, Bäumen, der Boden, einfach alles. Im Sommer dort zu sitzen macht richtig Laune. Die Bedienungen sind in der Regel freundlich. Wir kommen gerne ab und an und hatten bisher nur eine schlechte Erfahrung gemacht, aber jeder hat mal einen schlechten Tag. Das Essen ist hier nicht der Grund warum wir kommen. Die Röstis sind gut, Käsespätzle auch. Es gibt das Schnitzel mit Kalb, das gibt es in dem Biergarten in der Nähe nicht. Den Perlacher Hof kann man nur empfehlen!

Wir waren zum Schuljahres Abschluss mit der Klasse essen. Eigentlich wollten wir im Biergarten sitzen, aber auf Grund des Regens müssten wir nach drinnen ausweichen. Auf Grund des Regens war es drinnen dann natürlich sehr voll. Leider war das Personal sehr unprofessional, speziell den Kindern gegenüber haben sie sich teilweise unmöglich verhalten. Wir werden dort sicherlich nicht mehr hingehen. Das Essen war guter Durchschnitt.

Alles top - bis auf der Mitarbeiter D., welcher sehr unfreundlich war.

Wir haben sehr gut gegessen. Lob für die gute, freundliche, schnelle Bedienung. Wir kommen sicherlich bald wieder.

We had a good meal here. The duck and pork we delicious and succulent. There was some variation in the steak. And it goes without saying that the beer and sausages r good. Good place to come to if u are in the area.

Man sitzt im Biergarten sehr nett, schönes Ambiente. Preise sind deutlich gestiegen, dazu wurde die Quantität erheblich reduziert. Besonders auffällig ist das beim Schweinsbraten. Der besteht inzwischen aus zwei hauchdünnen (wie Aufschnitt) Scheiben mit einem zwei Zentimeter langen, dünnen Stück Kruste, das extra darüber gelegt wird. So etwas darf die Küche eines bayerischen Wirtshauses nicht verlassen. Schade. Waren häufig da.

Essen wie immer sehr gut aber diesmal sehr schlechter Service Sie können einem Kunden nicht sagen, wann ich Zeit habe, dass ich komme. . . . besonders einer älteren Person oder die Sachen verschoben, die ich zum Abstellen des Geschirrs habe Der freundliche Manager sollte der rothaarigen Kellnerin erklären, dass das Gehalt ihm gegeben wird, weil es Kunden gibt, die zu Ihnen zum Essen kommen.

Ich war schon einige Male im Perlacher Hof zum Essen, mit Freunden. Wir waren immer zufrieden. Heute, 26.02.2022 war ich mit einer Freundin dort Es waren sehr wenig Gäste da. Trotzdem wurden wir von der Serviererin Silvia nach anfänglichem im Minutentakt fragen: "Was möchten sie trinken" wirklich völlig links liegen gelassen. Es war uns nicht möglich eine Nachspeise zu bestellen, auf die wir dann verzichteten, die Lust war uns vergangen. Ich musste aufstehen und die Dame beim Besteck polieren stören um bezahlen zu können. Wir sind dann sehr verärgert und enttäuscht gegangen. Schade - aber man muss ja nicht hingehen

Bei schlechtem Wetter war das Restaurant an einem Montag schon gut gefüllt. Schneller, freundlicher Service. Wir hatten Zanderfilet und ein für mich unbekanntes Müncher Schnitzel mit Senfgeschmack! Beides war sehr gut! Preise sind o.k.

We've been here for dinner... on the outside the place is quite nice and welcoming with all the lights on in the garden... we got a table inside since it was getting kind of cold. Furniture and embellishments are mixed up among bavarian and tyroler\austrian style. Same goes for the food offered: dishes are well prepared and meat is tasty; i would say that "bratkartoffeln" were not that "brat" but rather steamed but on the whole it was fine. Dinner turned out to be quite pricy in the end considering the location and the meal itself

Wir (2 Personen) waren Mittags im Biergarten. Die Bedienung wollte sofort die Getränkewünsche aufnehmen. Mein Hinweis, dass ich das erst nach der Auswahl meines Essens bestellen möchte, hat ihr schon nicht gefallen. Sie brachte dann nach ca. 5 Minuten 1 (!) Speisekarte, die aus einem windigen Din A 4 Blatt bestand, auf der jedoch nur Speisen und keine Getränke aufgeführt waren. Sie warf auch keinen Blick mehr in unsere Richtung und kam nicht mehr zum Bedienen. Nach einer viertel Stunde sind wir wieder auf nimmer Wiedersehen gegangen.

Il piccolo ristorante nella periferia di Monaco ha diversi tavoli nel girdino estivo e alcuni all'interno. Faceva fresco e abbiamo preferito un tavolo interno ma abbiamo avuto un'incomprensione iniziale con la cameriera per la scelta del tavolo. Il semplice menù è solo in tedesco, ma il gentile cameriere ci ha aiutati nella scelta. Abbiamo preso una grande zuppa di patate con wurstel, molto aromatica e buonissima, un piatto di Kase spatzle (gnocchetti di farina con formaggio, specialità austriaca) e una grande insalata bavarese. L'insalata, molto varia, era servita su un piatto di pane croccante, una specie di frittella salata, e conteneva formaggio tipo feta avvolto in pancetta grigliata. La presentazione era molto bella e il gusto buono, anche se i pezzi di formaggio non erano facili da tagliare. Con 2 piccole birre abbiamo speso 44 €, accettano la carta di credito.

Angelockt durch die Steirischen Wochen war ich Anfang Oktober 2020 wieder dort. Leider hat sich das Wirtshaus sehr negativ verändert. Corona-Schikanen: Dass hier Corona-Schikanen gehegt und gepflegt werden, merkt man erst nach dem Betreten. Auf dem Boden hat man hässliche und unsinnige Pfeile aufgeklebt, die wild in alle möglichen Richtungen weisen. Über diese kann man hinwegsehen, aber über das unmögliche und laute Verhalten des Personals kann man aber leider nicht hinweghören. Service: * Service kann man das dort nicht nennen, daher einige Stichpunkte: Zwei Frauen haben bedient. - sie haben sich geweigert, mir die Getränkekarte zu bringen - sie haben sich geweigert, mir Salz- und Pfefferstreuer zu bringen - sie haben mit dem Mann am Nebentisch lautstark gestritten, als er auf Salz- und Pfefferstreuer bestanden hat - sie haben ständig lautstark durch den Innenraum sich Kommandos zu gerufen - sie haben sich mitten in den Raum gesetzt und Besteck unter lautem Klappern geputzt. Und ja, es war klar zu merken, dass sie Frust schieben und den sowohl untereinander als auch am Gast abreagieren. Ambiente: ** Keine Hintergrundmusik. Daher fällt das unmögliche Verhalten dort umso mehr akustisch auf und es stört sehr stark. Und: Während früher die Tische teilweise eindeckt waren, spart man sich jetzt dieses. Macht ja nur "überflüssige" Arbeit. Dementsprechend trist schaut es nun auch aus. Getränke: *** - man hat sich geweigert, mir die Getränkekarte zu bringen - der angepriesene Aperitif "Schilcher Sturm" war nicht verfügbar. - der andere angepriesene Schilcher wurde mir als Ersatz empfohlen, aber hier war die Beratung falsch, es war kein Aperitif-Wein sondern ein sehr trockener Wein zum Essen. - 0,1l Wein für 4,10€ und 0,2l für 6,60€ sind angesichts der Lage überteuert Essen: **** Eigentlich wäre das Essen gut gewesen, aber durch das unmögliche Verhalten des Personals dort, ist mir frühzeitig Appetit und Stimmung vergangen. Fazit: ** Kundenfeindlicher Umgang mit den Gästen und lautstarkes Daneben-Benehmen des Personals vernichten jedwedes Ambiente. Das Essen war Nebensache; satt werden kann ich auch woanders, wo die Stimmung merklich besser ist. Klares "Nicht wieder" !