Witwenball Küche & Wein in Hamburg

We ate a delicious 4-course meal! Original recipe ideas! Service was attentive and discreet. The atmosphere was pleasant, but when it's full, it's also very loud because, as is the case everywhere, every inch of space is used. There's a very large selection of wine, but the prices here are a bit excessive.

Very unfriendly, impatient service. The food was very poor, neither well seasoned nor cooked to perfection—either over-fried or undercooked. Very disappointing. Too bad, we were looking forward to the restaurant...

We are visiting family in the west of Hamburg and wanted to meet a friend from the east. He researched the internet for gastronomic highlights halfway there. What luck that he came across the Widow's Ball and made a reservation straight away!!! The wine list really blew me away: four pages of white wines from Austria alone! We were spoiled for choice: a bottle of fine German rosé wine sparkling wine, Grüner Veltliner Alte Reben from Wimmer-Czerny and a refreshing Riesling from Clemens Busch to a great red cuvée from Montsant. We had already eaten before and therefore only ordered a cheese plate. The selection and explanation by the knowledgeable and very friendly service staff were equally excellent. There are still many wines here that beg to be tasted, and a menu that made us regret not coming an hour earlier and hungry. We'll definitely do that very soon and again and again! Great ambience, concept created and maintained with dedication, empathy and expertise, implemented by an unobtrusive but very attentive team who seem to enjoy their work.

Very tasty, seating unusual. Nice, quick service. Good wines. And have been there again 3 times. Corrected from 4 to 5 stars. Really good food. Second addendum: still my absolute favorite restaurant. The attentive service makes me feel right at home.

We had a lovely evening. Thanks

We went to the Widow's Ball last Friday evening and unfortunately had a very disappointing experience. Service and food just weren't good. But what was most disappointing was the way we treated guests. About the service: Our waiter (male, black, short hair and noticeable tattoos) simply didn't feel like doing his job - we weren't served with a smile or spoken to at all. Instead, rude and impatient. He didn't give us any time to study the menu, stood next to us impatiently and commented disparagingly that the wine I had chosen was quite expensive. In order to take the order, he interrupted our conversation several times and interrupted us. Was he in a hurry, did he have to go somewhere or what? That was really uncomfortable. About the food: That evening we had three different dishes from main and intermediate courses. Unfortunately, none of them lived up to our expectations. My pineapple cheeks in panko were completely over-salted and the crust was overcooked. The chicken was limp and completely unseasoned or salted. The redfish was dry. In general, the combination of the individual components in none of the dishes was really good or tasteful. Only the oysters were good, but you don't have to prepare them... Because of the poor food, we also criticized the service. However, the answer was that the food was completely fine. They would have tried it again in the kitchen. Such “sorry you weren’t happy” really creates an atmosphere in which we, the guests, are made the problem, not the bad expensive food. Well bravo! And how unprofessional. There was no serious “sorry” or even an offer of compensation. Instead, as we were leaving the restaurant, someone (the restaurant manager? We don't know...) asked us again about our satisfaction. If you don't want to hear it, then please don't ask. Our criticisms were dismissed with a casual “I’ll ask again.” There was also a lack of openness to a real conversation and the willingness to accept feedback or even offer something to make amends. Just hospitality! At the Greek restaurant around the corner, more is done to ensure guest satisfaction. On the restaurant's website it says so beautifully, "an appreciative environment" - an experience that we definitely didn't have that evening. We were really dissatisfied and we won't be coming back. A restaurant that wants to welcome its guests at this level should urgently rethink how it deals with criticism. And also deliver the quality that is promised here. This treatment of us and this demarcation, which I also observe in other restaurants that are so overrated, is quite arrogant and aloof.

Wir waren am vergangenen Freitagabend im Witwenball und haben leider eine sehr enttäuschende Erfahrung gemacht. Service und Essen waren einfach nicht gut. Was aber am enttäuschendsten war, war der Umgang mit uns Gästen. Zum Service: Unser Kellner (männlich, schwarze, kurze Haare und auffällige Tattoos), hatte einfach keine Lust auf seinen Job- weder wurden wir mit einem Lächeln bedient oder mit uns überhaupt gesprochen. Statt dessen unhöflich und ungeduldig. Er hat uns keine Zeit gelassen, um das Menü zu studieren, stand ungeduldig neben uns und kommentierte noch dazu abfällig, dass der von mir gewählte Wein doch ziemlich teuer sei. Um die Bestellung aufzunehmen, unterbrach er uns mehrfach im Gespräch und fiel uns ins Wort. Hatte er es eilig, musste er noch wohin oder was? Das war richtig unangenehm. Zum Essen: Wir hatten an diesem Abend drei verschiedene Gerichte aus Haupt- und Zwischengängen. Leider entsprach keines davon unseren Erwartungen. Meine Steinbeisserbäckchen in Panko, waren völlig versalzen und die Kruste war zu stark ausgebacken. Das Hähnchen war labbrig und völlig ungewürzt oder gesalzen. Der Rotbarsch war trocken. Generell war die Kombination der einzelnen Komponenten bei keinem Gericht richtig gut und geschmackvoll. Lediglich die Austern waren gut, aber die muss man ja auch nicht zubereiten… Wegen des schlechten Essens haben wir auch Kritik an den Service gerichtet. Die Antwort war jedoch, dass die Speisen völlig in Ordnung gewesen seien. In der Küche hätte man das nochmals probiert. Solch ein „tut uns Leid, dass Ihr nicht zufrieden wart“, schafft wirklich eine Atmosphäre, in der wir, die Gäste, zum Problem gemacht werden, und nicht das schlechte teure Essen. Na bravo! Und wie unprofessionell. Ein ernst gemeintes „tut uns Leid“ oder gar ein Angebot zur Kompensation blieb aus. Stattdessen befragte uns beim Verlassen des Restaurants auch noch einmal Jemand (der Restaurantleiter? Man weiß es nicht…) nach unserer Zufriedenheit. Wenn man es nicht hören will, dann bitte auch nicht fragen. Auf unsere Kritikpunkte hin, wurden mit einem beiläufigen “Da frage ich nochmal nach” abgetan. Es fehlte auch da an der Offenheit für ein echtes Gespräch und dem Willen, Feedback anzunehmen oder gar etwas zur Wiedergutmachung anzubieten. Gastfreundlichkeit eben! Beim Griechen um die Ecke, wird mehr für die Zufriedenheit der Gäste getan. Auf der Website des Restaurants heißt es ja so schön, „ein wertschätzendes Umfeld“ – eine Erfahrung, die wir an diesem Abend definitiv nicht gemacht haben. Wir waren echt unzufrieden und wir kommen auch nicht wieder. Ein Restaurant, das auf diesem Niveau seine Gäste empfangen möchte, sollte dringend den Umgang mit Kritik überdenken. Und auch die Qualität liefern, die hier versprochen wird. Dieser Umgang mit uns und dieses Abgrenzen, das ich übrigens auch in anderen Restaus, die dermaßen overrated sind, beobachte, ist ziemlich arrogant und abgehoben.

Incredibly great restaurant in the Schanzenviertel. If you're looking for great food and an outstanding wine list, look no further than the Widow's Ball. We attended the winemaker's evening with Slovenian wines. A dream! Very strong program. The cocktails are also sensational. Check it out 🚀🚀🚀!

Fantastic staff, service and ambiance. Food and cocktails were delicious:)

Top food and great wine selection

Very good food, bistronomique. Beautifully presented and sometimes with exciting combinations. Chefs definitely know their craft. Service friendly and very attentive. Wines are also very good, but as usual in the upscale range, not quite cheap. Still a clear recommendation!

Excellent food and really good wines

Sehr herzlicher Empfang und aufmerksamer Service. Wir haben das Schnitzel gegessen, absolute Empfehlung. Gemütliches Ambiente und Lautstärke läßt eine Unterhaltung zu...

We had a very nice evening at the Widow's Ball! We really liked the idea of ​​the four-course menu, where you can choose from 3 alternatives. Our highlight was the deer saddle! Big praise to the widow's ball and big thanks to the deer! The excellent service served us a suitable wine for each course, even though there is no classic wine accompaniment at the Widow's Ball. We would love to come back!

Delicious food, very tasty cocktails, large selection of wines, unfortunately noisy ambience due to loud people sitting next to you, service mediocre.

Dinner for four: ambience and food were good. Fresh ingredients, very good fish prepared to perfection and the Wiener Schnitzel was okay (the breading wasn't quite right). We only had problems with one waiter: after tasting it, it was clear to us that we didn't like the wine. Then the waiter: And what should I do with the bottle now? We then gritted our teeth and drank the wine. After the (not insignificant) bill, our guests wanted to wait out a sudden rain shower at the bar and drink a beer. The waiter: That's not possible, we've already closed the cash register. Customer orientation of a different kind. Addendum: we were there again with the family. This time more relaxed atmosphere. The breaded rockfish cheeks as a starter were great, as were the salsify with blue cheese and the redfish. This time the two Wiener Schnitzels were a complete miss: large, thick breading and tough, tasteless meat. OK, the kitchen gave us a little schnitzel to take home, but that didn't really make up for it.

From reception to leaving, everything was perfect, great team! Very good drinks at the bar and a great wine list, especially the vegetarian dishes.

Food & service are very very good, but portions are quite small and for me it’s a bit overpriced. We had the 4 courses menu and some glasses of wine - paid 100€ per person :)

Everything is done right. You can't say more!

amazing wine list - and the service was exceptional. our sommelier recommended a gorgeous bottle of orange wine from romania and was really informative and really knew his wine. our espresso martinis which we decided to have instead of dessert were also amazing and not sickly sweet like they often can be. for the food my favourite were Jerusalem artichokes and the fish soup.

A top evening with a great 4-course menu and great service

Very nice location with a good wine list and very diverse menu.

A really successful concept! The food is really delicious, as are the drinks. The service is really very accommodating! We had a lovely evening!! There is a small point deduction for the volume there, but that's complaining at a high level! Keep it up!

The food was delicious, but for all of us it wasn't particularly unusual for the prices/sizes. Service was good, but everyone was too trained on constant upselling, which we all noticed. Ambiance was nice.

First-class cuisine, super nice and competent service and a special wine selection.

We had a very nice evening with an excellent 4-course menu at a very fair price. The wine recommended with the meal was also a hit! We were therefore more than satisfied and can warmly recommend the Widow's Ball!

Unusually good food and quality…. especially for the “Schanze”

The store was full. Some of the service staff were very nice and appropriate, while others did not master the simplest service rules. No advice on wine. The food is consistently far too salty (we like to eat salty, but here it's simply oversalted). The dishes were otherwise bland in taste and unfortunately only lukewarm when they arrived at the table. We were disappointed. Unfortunately, the price-performance ratio wasn't right for our group of four. Too bad!

Wir waren nach einiger Zeit endlich mal wieder im Witwenball - und waren rundum hin und weg! 1.Die Atmosphäre - ist einfach schön, obwohl das Restaurant fast ausgebucht war, ist es nicht laut, sondern nur ein sehr angenehmes "Grundrauschen" zu hören. Und von der Einrichtung her ist es eh super schön. 2. Das Personal - ist nicht nur unglaublich nett und aufmerksam, sondern auch äußerst kompetent. Es wurden wirklich ideale Weine empfohlen und vorher super detailliert beschrieben. 3. Das Essen - war ein Traum. Wir hatten verschiedene Vorspeien wie Topinambur oder Saibling, verschiedene Hauptgerichte wie Rinderschulter und Wiener Schnitzel und verschiedene Nachspeisen. Alles unbeschreiblich gut - die Schulter zarter, als zart - und alles immer mit einer trickreichen, besonderen Zutat angerichtet. ZUSAMMENFASSEND: Geht unbedingt hin und genießt es! Und für den etwas größeren Hunger ist das 4-Gang Menü mit toller Auswahl und für 69€ wirklich ein Angebot!

We visited the restaurant exclusively as part of a company party. Personally, I enjoyed the menu, but the portions were quite small. Many of my colleagues found the menu composition too extravagant, and unfortunately they didn't ask about any allergies in advance, so they could hardly eat anything. Wine was continually poured, even when the glass was still half full. At some point, of course, you lost track of how much you had actually drunk. This threw some people off course quite early in the evening. This raises the question of whether so much should be served at a company party so early in the evening and on an empty stomach. But I also see some of the responsibility as lying with the organizers of the evening. Generally an interesting experience, but I probably won't come here again on a personal basis. Edit: Apparently my words caused confusion at the restaurant and the employees can no longer remember that there was an exclusive event at the beginning of the year. It's definitely not a case of confusion; that would imply that there is another restaurant with the same name and the same concept in the same district of Hamburg.

A really nice evening, perfect service for our group of 30 people, food great as always, wines too, that's all we needed. Unreservedly recommended!

We recently went to the Widow's Ball for the meal and both the food and service were top notch! The atmosphere was nice, the guests were sitting at the tables in a fun, laughing manner, and otherwise you just felt very comfortable and in a good atmosphere. The menu was delicious, the drinks were simply good. Always happy 😇

What a great evening!! Karl was our host. He carried himself well and he really made our night unforgettable.

An absolute top restaurant. I had to register in advance due to allergies. The service was extremely prepared, knew everything, was courteous and was able to vary the menu according to my wishes. The food is simply delicious. The ambience was fine, not over-the-top and I was very satisfied. The price is completely reasonable. For the whole service, the delicious food and the ambience, it's justified. I forgot to take pictures of the food because I was so excited. Just imagine it 🤩

Plenty of selection of delicious wines and expert advice from the friendly service. While the schnitzel is highly recommended, the venison pie was unfortunately very dry and bland.

Very good food and good wine. But sitting on the bench in the corner was incredibly uncomfortable, and I don't understand why they couldn't offer it better. The owner already knew about it, but he somehow didn't care. You had to wait a long time to learn about wine glasses...

It couldn't be better. Thank you for the wonderful evening.

We had the pleasure of enjoying a fantastic 4-course meal at the Wittwenball restaurant in Hamburg and we are thrilled! Every course was a culinary delight and the composition of the dishes was thought out down to the last detail and tasted excellent. The service was attentive, friendly and maintained just the right amount of presence – we felt completely looked after. The waiting times between courses were perfectly timed so that we could enjoy the menu in peace without having to wait long for the next course. Particularly noteworthy is the excellent price-performance ratio. The price was more than justified for the quality and sophistication of the food. We can recommend the Wittwenball to anyone who wants to experience a culinary highlight in Hamburg. We'll definitely be back!

Great service, very good wine list, unfortunately the cuisine has declined significantly. Little taste and differentiation in the dishes. The truffle gnocchi are completely boring and almost unsalted. Too bad! We ate there once 10 months ago - no comparison! Get back to your old strength!

For the price we would have expected a little more. It tasted better but it would definitely have been better with a little more spices. The bartender's volume was also very loud for the ambience. The service, on the other hand, was 1a. The dishes were very well presented and very attentive. Only the time window for sitting is too short if the food takes a long time to arrive. We would definitely have drunk longer.

Simply good! Super nice service, great wine advice and very, very tasty food. A blessing. We'll be back.

The service was very good and the food was excellent.

Thank you 🥰 for the great evening Very nice restaurant, fantastic delicious food, every course an experience! Service: charming and casual. New favorite location

Super great restaurant with great food and the staff was fantastic. Rarely have I had such a lovely evening

Good food and nice service, but too expensive for the overall package.

Rarely have we experienced such good service, very attentive, nice and not intrusive. The food is delicious and even if it reads simply, you will be surprised. It wasn't the first time there and it won't be the last time.

We had a fantastic evening at the Widow's Ball. The food was very tasty, the advice and service in general were very friendly and competent. We felt absolutely comfortable. We would love to come back :)

Cozy atmosphere, attentive service, very good food, it's worth the price. Unfortunately I didn't like the recommended wine, but it was replaced immediately. We had a very nice evening and went home happy.

Particularly nice shop with great cocktails and wines and great service.

Probably one of the better places in Germany. Great food and great service.

Amazing food, awesome staff, perfect wine collection to pair with.

The Widow's Ball restaurant is located near the Sternschanze and is modern and rather dark for its surroundings. The good reviews from various forums and also from Michelin drew my attention. The service was really good and very friendly. The concept of the four courses, where you also have a choice of different options, was also very good. Unfortunately, the food, no matter how beautiful it was, wasn't entirely convincing. First of all: the walnut bread that we got in advance was very good and extremely tasty. The tartare was rather weak in taste and was missing something. Unfortunately, this impression also permeated the other dishes. Despite everything, it tasted okay, but unfortunately I was a little disappointed given my higher expectations. There could be many reasons, but unfortunately the visit wasn't all that good for this price.

We had a wonderful evening here. The food was really tasty and the sommelier's wine selection was excellent! We'll definitely be back.

The quality of the food was very disappointing. We had as a starter scallops which had no taste and I even had to ask for salt and the burrata which had way too much dressing and the problem was that the dressing was not even good. Then we had a piece of meat with a burned lettuce and a fish with a white sauce. The sauce of the fish was highly fatty and did not go well with the flavor. I don’t give them one star because the service and the atmosphere were very nice. It was my second time in this restaurant and it was such a pity that this time it was so bad, I am not coming back.

We really liked it, especially the spontaneous wine accompaniment to our 4-course menu... Always interesting, because we would never have ordered the accompanying wines... just go for it and enjoy 😉

4 course menu - where you can always choose from 2-4 options at a very reasonable price that absolutely corresponds to the quality of the food. It's a shame that there is no wine pairing or at least wine recommendation. ...but - we'll be happy to come back when we're back in Hamburg.

Very interesting 4-course menu, alternating between classic and experimental. Extremely affordable price for the quality

Excellent food, service and wine

Anlässlich meines Geburtstages waren wir hier. Der Empfang war sehr distanziert und man fühlte sich als Gast nicht willkommen. Die Damen die uns bedienten waren sehr flappsig in ihrer Art. Die Dame, die uns Getränke servierte, sagte komischerweise nachdem sie zum dritten Mal bei uns am Tisch war, wieder Guten Abend 😂. Wir mussten selbst zur Bedienung gehen, um Getränke nachzubestellen. Das Restaurant war zu diesem Zeitpunkt noch leer! Man kann also nicht sagen, dass eine Menge Gäste zu bedienen waren. Das Iberico Rückensteak war Mega trocken, so dass wir es reklamiert haben. In Summe stimmte das Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis gar nicht! Ein Glas Rotwein 0,1 l 12,50!!!! 😤😤😤😤 Schade, um das Geld und mein doofes Geburtstagsessen. .

Fine cuisine, daily specials and many menus, if you want to celebrate something, this is the place for you!

Everything was tasty, but not so special that I can follow the Michelin reference.

A wonderful place with sensational food, great service and a relaxed, tasteful ambience. And what not everyone knows is that vegans are perfectly catered for with great alternatives!!! Absolute recommendation!

World class! The Neue Zürcher Zeitung didn't promise too much in its Bellevue ranking of the 10 best wine bars in Europe! Great food, lots of good wine and courteous, attentive and very nice staff!

Everything was actually perfect. Except for the service, unfortunately the young man didn't have much interest - that was visible and noticeable.

Everything was very tasty and great service. We'd love to come back! On Sundays for schnitzel 😋🖖🏽

Wir kommen immer mal wieder, weil wir gleich um die Ecke wohnen, Langsam kristallisiert sich allerdings raus, dass es nicht lohnt. Mal super toll, beim nächsten Mal wieder absolut enttäuschend. Bei den Preisen, möchte ich sichergehen können , dass ich gut esse. Woran liegts? Wechselt der Koch oft?

Great service, it couldn't be better. Ambience nice. Unfortunately, the food didn't quite satisfy me.

Top food, good drinks and great service...

A very nice restaurant with a cult dance hall background, hence the name :) Very nice service, good price-performance ratio and delicious food, definitely worth a visit!

Very nice wines with top advice, food, service ambience everything for top marks, beware of the devilishly delicious cocktails...

Great food, great ambience!! Always happy again! :)

A good, but somewhat overambitious restaurant. The food was good, but a little more for show than just good taste. It was a bit unfortunate that the wine that had previously been announced as the perfect accompaniment was not put into cold storage and that an alternative was then brought.

We spontaneously looked for a place here and the evening couldn't have been better. Top service, sensational cuisine and great ambience. We'll definitely be back! I recommend the menu - fair price.

Nettes Ambiente - sehr freundliches Personal - köstliches Menü mit einem sehr guten Rotwein. Wir haben uns sehr wohl gefühlt und die Speisen hatten einen sehr guten Geschmack. Wir planen einen weiteren Abend mit Freunden.

comfy atmo, used to be my aperitif to go place great selection of seasonal menu nice drinks, love the whiskey sour attentive staff — always accommodating to special food requests guests (resto goers) are a bit chi-chi

Nach einigen etwas kritischen Bewertungen hier - bei Google sieht es zum Glück anders aus - sind wir mit etwas Skepsis los. Aber es war ein runder und gelungener Abend! Sehr nette Begrüßung - auffällig sehr viel Personal. Auch das Essen enttäuschte uns nicht - wir nahmen jeder das Menü, was inzwischen 69€ pro Person kostet. Sehr kreativ und vor allem auch für jeden etwas dabei. Auch für Vegetarier und auch für uns wichtig - glutenfrei wird berücksichtigt. Auch wenn das Restaurant sehr gut besucht war - man konnte sich nicht sehr gut unterhalten.

Top drinks, friendly, cool atmosphere and great ambience

Very nice restaurant. Good food (cheese platter was very carelessly prepared and no information about the cheese was given at the table) but unfortunately the service forgot about us a few times.

Great experience, very good quality cuisine, the 4-course menu is delicious. The staff is attentive and very professional, the setting and the cozy atmosphere. To try!!

A cozy atmosphere, a stylish interior and a charming team, a wide wine list and food that leaves you wanting more. This is how gastronomy works! We love the Widow's Ball!

We went here for my girlfriend's birthday. It was incredibly good. Both food, wine and service. My girlfriend is a trained sommelier and found the wine selection exceptionally good. 🙂 Thank you for the lovely evening and best wishes from Munich 🥨

Look good food - great service - cool location

Very nice ambience, aesthetically decorated and presented with well-positioned, courteous service. The bottle of wine we ordered was opened at the bar, tasted beforehand and served without a wine cooler - which was a bit strange as the wine list was otherwise promising. The food was tasty, although a little under-spiced, but the 4th course menu price was fairly calculated at €60. Food: 3.5/5 Service: 4 Ambiance: 5

wow, great experience! We had a 4-course menu and everything was very well prepared and tasted delicious! The beef tartare is highly recommended.

Very good cuisine and wine list

Unfortunately, the food wasn't such that I can justify the prices. My tartare was swimming in a Thai sauce. Taste of the meat was drowned. The staff was incredibly great, so it's hard for me to rate the food99

Peer's wine expertise and Karlfried's charm impress with every visit, the whole team does a top job! Thank you very much, I'll be back

A really big compliment. We were able to spend a great evening in a pleasant atmosphere Creative fresh cuisine with beautiful aromas, perfect cooking times and also beautifully presented visually, unpretentious and refreshing service with the heart in the right place. Great wine list. Reserve in good time - it's really worth it.

My girlfriend and I are still dreaming about the food and the super friendly service. Really an all around great concept. If you want to have a nice evening with good food and the best drinks - go there :) the food was extremely well coordinated and really tasty

The 4-course menu was incredible - delicious and beautifully presented. They use fresh, regional ingredients, which really makes a difference. The atmosphere is chic and sophisticated, and the staff was fantastic. They were attentive all night, friendly, and incredibly knowledgeable about both the food and their wines. The highlight for me (if I had to pick just one) were the absolutely exceptional cocktails! Highly recommend!

A great restaurant!!! Very special and delicious dishes ❤️ very, very nice service ❤️ and a great ambience ❤️ we enjoyed it very much ❤️

It doesn't get any better. I know the location from the 60s. A lot has changed, but only for the best. The menu we had here was absolutely brilliant. We'll definitely be back.

A really great restaurant from the moment to the end, an absolutely successful evening!! I can only recommend it, it's worth a visit!!

Highly recommended except that it is unfortunately very, very expensive. But wow!

I had carrot tartare and beef brisket. From my point of view, the taste was first class and also rich.

Very stylishly furnished, great and attentive service with excellent advice for the guest. Delicious food and a selection of top wines. A small drawback was the bitter espresso.

Culinary fireworks with food/wine pairing at absolutely fair prices. Price-performance is second to none. Of the three courses, the tartare, the pumpkin risotto and the crème brulee were the absolute highlights. We would love to come back and look forward to the next great culinary evening with you.

Everything tasted very good, unfortunately I forgot to take photos before dessert. But it was particularly beautiful and definitely had to be photographed.

A really great and recommended restaurant with a great wine list and great wine recommendations.

Claim and reality are worlds apart. Savings were made on scallops. Redfish was ok. Creme Brulee had a sugar crust burnt black and tasted really charcoal. A pity.