Basierend auf 1.373 Bewertungen gefunden auf 2 Websites
Basierend auf 1.373 Bewertungen gefunden auf 2 Websites
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Very friendly, delicious food, and a great atmosphere. I'm always impressed. They really know their craft here. Everything I've eaten so far has been perfectly prepared.
Jens Pohlmann . 2025-11-21
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Customers are being ignored. Nobody is answering the phone.
Bernd Kolkmann . 2025-11-09
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Super friendly, attentive to the well-being of the guests, food as always superb, thank you
Andreas Hassel . 2025-11-08
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The worst meal ever. The best part was the warm rolls with something resembling herb butter as a starter. That was it. We were invited, otherwise I would have complained vehemently on the spot. My wife ordered strips of beef in gypsy sauce, supposedly topped with cheese. It was just sauce with maybe four pieces of meat. Cheese?! ... Our host served a dry, grilled platter with nothing on it (like herb butter). I had a beef skewer with the entire tendon from the rump. The waiter told me that was normal. It was an absolute disgrace! I tried to speak to the manager about it, but he didn't seem to care. There was one good dish, the stuffed rump steak, but it came with at least three portions of fries (what a waste of food these days!). 😖 Please stay away from this "restaurant." Go to a chip shop; the food will definitely taste better.
Martin Seul . 2025-10-29
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We had a reservation and got a very good table. After a very short wait, we were given our menus and asked for our drink preferences. The restaurant was very busy, and the young waitresses were busy. We didn't try the salad buffet, but it was fresh and offered a wide selection. The fish and stuffed minced meat we ordered were excellent. If you like large portions, this is the place for you.
Ulrich Becker . 2025-10-26
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Authentic restaurant with excellent food. Home-style cooking at fair prices. I highly recommend it.
Tobias Komm . 2025-10-26
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Always delicious there. Although, unfortunately, prices are rising dramatically everywhere.
Sascha Haass . 2025-10-25
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Price-performance simply unbeatable, very nice staff
Alexa Hütt . 2025-10-12
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Great grill restaurant Very good selection Very good quality Very friendly and fast service Great atmosphere
Martin Dern . 2025-10-11
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The quality of the food and the generous portion sizes are very good. The value for money is really good here. The restaurant is very clean and pleasantly decorated. However, there's still room for improvement in the service department. The waiter served us rather listlessly...not unfriendly, but very cold...the lady who brought the drinks was very nice...the atmosphere was a bit odd...The food and the salad buffet are really good...we'll definitely be back.
Ralf . 2025-10-04
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Tolle Mittagsangebote, super nette Bedienung.
K T. . 2025-09-29
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"We returned here after a long time. My companion was very satisfied; my cordon bleu was a bit too crispy in one corner, but otherwise it was fine. I appreciated the small gesture of a roll and butter beforehand. There's still a schnapps on the house, but I don't know which one (I don't drink alcohol). We sat in the conservatory – pleasant and quiet, while the restaurant was very busy (we were there on a Tuesday evening). The service was friendly and attentive, sometimes a little too much at the table for my liking, especially with drinks. The value for money and portions are still good."
Steffi Peters . 2025-09-21
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Always happy to come back! Good quality, affordable, very friendly service. Pleasant, comfortable environment.
Maxx von Wanne . 2025-09-19
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We were there for lunch. We didn't need a reservation. The restaurant was well-stocked, not to mention packed. There was a soup starter and salad from the salad bar. I didn't have my steak seasoned because they use too much salt for me. My steak was grilled medium-rare to perfection and very tasty. The lamb steaks were tender. Friendly service Pleasant atmosphere Very tasty food
Beate . 2025-09-17
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Nach 20 Jahren endlich mal wieder in Dinslaken gespeist. Natürlich musste es wieder Hazienda sein. Kein Unterschied festgestellt. Noch immer genauso gut wie früher. Wer das über zwei Dekaden halten kann hat auf jeden Fall mehr als 5 Sterne verdient……Chapeau.
Carlos Solrac . 2025-09-10
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We visited the restaurant because of the many positive reviews, but unfortunately, we can't understand them. Positive: We got a table right away without a reservation. The vegetables tasted okay. Negative: Very long wait: Almost an hour until the food was served. Warm plates were initially brought – but by the time the food arrived, they were already cold. Overall, the taste was disappointing: meat was dry, barely seasoned, vegetables with too little sauce, rice was dry, and fries were not good. No explanation about the salad bar, even though it was our first time there. Service was unfriendly and aloof, with no smile or effort. Our feedback ("it was okay") was met with no response. Conclusion: Unfortunately, this isn't a restaurant we would recommend. We've had much better experiences in Rhineland-Palatinate.
Sar Ah . 2025-09-01
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The food was delicious. The service was top-notch. Even though it was very busy, they kept checking to see if anything was missing. We wonder why we only discovered this restaurant now.
Kirsten Weniger . 2025-08-25
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Beautiful restaurant with a varied menu. There's something for everyone. The salad bar also has a good selection. The food and service were excellent. We would love to come back.
Tanja W.-R. . 2025-08-23
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The Best Grill Restaurant in Dinslaken We eat there regularly and have never been disappointed. The meat is always perfectly prepared, and the staff is very friendly and well-coordinated. I can't comment on the fish dishes, as I haven't tried them yet. I also really like the salad bar, something I miss in most restaurants. I'm already looking forward to my next visit.
Luca Lehnhoff . 2025-08-14
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It wasn't anything, unfortunately. But the service was nice.
E. S. . 2025-08-07
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Great selection and the meat is excellent in all the dishes I've eaten.
Jörg Hettkamp . 2025-07-22
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…my restaurant for the best steaks for over 30 years…. Always happy to come back
Andre Krykwa . 2025-07-18
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The food was delicious, even if the ordering wasn't quite right, but overall everything was fine.
Thomas M. . 2025-06-16
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Always happy to go back. Super delicious. Perfect for meat/steak lovers.
Nadine Mac . 2025-06-07
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The food is always delicious, we have been going there for years and are always impressed
Pascal Lastering . 2025-06-01
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We eat there very often with the family. Sometimes for lunch, sometimes for dinner, for family celebrations and holidays. The food is consistently good, the salad buffet is fantastic, and for us, the value for money is unbeatable! Top-notch! We will continue to enjoy the delicacies at this restaurant!
Bonnie Locki . 2025-05-31
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I could recommend it if the waiters were a bit friendlier.
Carmen Hoffmann . 2025-05-30
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I can recommend the restaurant.
Georg Thimianidis . 2025-05-16
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The ambiance is rustic and cozy. The many booths create privacy, making you feel comfortable even when the restaurant is full. The service was very attentive, but seemed very stressed and unfortunately didn't even smile for us. One would have wished for a bit more friendliness here; unfortunately, it's a bit impersonal as it is. The food was impeccable and delicious. The menu is very extensive, so there's something for everyone. Overall, it's a bit on the expensive side.
Sylke . 2025-05-16
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My husband and I were invited for a birthday party this evening and were very pleasantly surprised! Very tasty food and very nice staff! Would love to eat there again.
Lilia Korjagin . 2025-04-26
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Nice restaurant, good food at competitive prices. Highly recommended.
Chris Wildeboer . 2025-04-24
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We have never been disappointed, whether with the daily changing lunch menu or on a Sunday. The salad buffet alone leaves nothing to be desired. A house soup is served for lunch. The price-performance ratio is top. We always enjoy coming here.
oli . 2025-04-23
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Simply the best restaurant!!! I like to come to you every week 🤩
Michael Heussen . 2025-04-15
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Very nice and courteous staff. The food came very quickly.
Kerstin Knaffla . 2025-04-09
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Einige Gerichte waren lieblos angerichtet und das Fleisch teilweise nicht in Ordnung. Die Bedienung sehr unfreundlich. Jede Frage war schon zuviel. Bei der Bezahlung kein Nachlass oder Ähnliches. Nicht mehr wieder. Sorry
Klaus S . 2025-04-04
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As always, delicious food, pleasant atmosphere and friendly service.
carsten lilienthal . 2025-03-29
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Were eating there. Noise level was very high, normal conversation was not possible. Onion soup with cheese gratin was a failure. After returning a spoon, the waiter started to argue loudly. Impossible! Friendliness or getting a smile was zero. Dressing for salad was only available upon request. You can't think of anything about the toilet facilities, there is a risk of injury at the cistern. The washbasin tap is totally dirty and disgusting. Will never go there again.
Lotta St . 2025-03-23
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Food was so well. However, we waited a long time and tables that arrived later had their food in front of us. We wanted the menu again for dessert. However, we were simply given the bill. When we were asked to pack meat and bone remains, we discovered at home that only bones and no meat had been packed. We won't be coming back.
Vernice . 2025-03-22
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There are very tasty steaks here. 👌
Boris Gurski . 2025-03-15
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I've eaten here a few times and will do so more often. The staff is always friendly and helpful. I recommend reserving a table in advance.
Biene Maya . 2025-03-12
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There is nothing to complain about, the price/performance ratio and the quality are right, we like coming and are now coming more and more often!
Michael . 2025-03-12
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The restaurant and the staff give an overall good impression. The service is reasonable, even when the restaurant is busy, the friendly waiters are very attentive. Unfortunately the food is overpriced for the quality and quantity. The grill plate, for example, is very clear and bacon is not included. The veal medallions were very well fried and tender as butter and then this good impression is completely eliminated with a ready-made sauce and canned mushrooms. That's unreasonable at almost €33 for small medallions a few croquettes and that bad sauce. Unfortunately, they skimp on quality here, I don't want to be a chef there and I can't recommend it. The evening we were there, the plates were decorated with a scrap of lettuce and a mangled radish, I really don't know how you can put something like that on the plates with a clear conscience. Please stop it, it's a waste.
CELL . 2025-03-11
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Reservations only by phone and no one is hurt
Patric Probst . 2025-03-08
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Very friendly staff, very good quality food. I'll come back and I'm already looking forward to it. Steal 2 stars, yesterday it was disappointing, full, staff unfriendly, food not good, meat was tough, fed up at first and reserved table canceled. Go somewhere else. It wasn't good for a while, then it got good again, maybe they'll get things going again.
Silke Gi . 2025-02-09
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Great food and drinks at fair prices. Be sure to reserve otherwise you will hardly get a place for two. The toilets could use a renovation even if they are clean.
Troll . 2025-01-18
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I've been coming here since I was a child and have never been disappointed. Absolute recommendation!
Maike S. . 2025-01-17
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We go there with the family every year on one of the Christmas holidays. The steaks there are highly recommended. In principle, you can put together many of the dishes at the salad bar yourself. We ate there on Christmas Day. The price has increased compared to previous years, but they have also made the portions much smaller. Taste good Steak also tender but we will look for something else or cook it ourselves. Everyone needs to know how much they are willing to spend.
Werner Bauerknecht . 2025-01-15
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Restaurant full and loud. We waited over an hour for our food. The cheese on the gratinated fillet resembled a wool blanket. There was a thick layer of rubber that was difficult to handle even with a knife and the cheese was tasteless. Drinks that we had ordered simply didn't come at all. We then had to wait forever for the bill. For us it was definitely the last visit to this restaurant.
Heidi Kremer . 2025-01-12
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Good food, friendly staff, what more could you want.
Fritz S. . 2025-01-08
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Sehr freundliches Personal, super leckeren Essen und super Service. Immer wieder wenn ich in Dinslaken bin
Martina Bielstein . 2025-01-04
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Wir waren heute am 26.12.2024 mit 11 Personen zum Weihnachtsessen in diesem Lokal. NIE WIEDER. Das Essen war lauwarm, die Schnitzel billigste Ware, die Schnecken waren in Alkohol getränkt, das Fleisch überhaupt nicht durchgebrannt und die ANRICHTE.....wie in einer Pommesbude. Jeder Euro ist zuviel, den man da ausgibt.
Gabriele Z . 2024-12-26
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Highly recommended. Service, food, ambience. Everything is great
Christian Gallinat . 2024-12-26
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Food not cheap but very good. You should have a larger selection at the salad buffet. That was just standard.
Bob Dot com . 2024-12-18
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Seit den 80ern besuchen wir das Restaurant Hazienda in Dinslaken. An der Qualität hat sich nichts geändert... Salatbuffet immer reichlich und frisch. Steaks, ob Filet oder Hüfte ein Gedicht. Bedienung immer nett und freundlich. Nur am Rande: Wir vermissen nur das "amuse-gueule", das bei jedem Besuch in Form von kleinen Brötchen und ein Aperitif (Sherry) serviert wurde.
g-mac4 . 2024-12-15
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Very tasty food. I can only recommend 👌🏼
Michel * . 2024-12-14
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Loyal regular guest. That won't change!!! There's no reason to do something so stupid. Best restaurant in the Hood❣️
Jörg Schaefer . 2024-12-14
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Had Christmas dinner with company. 5 people. The waiter was unfriendly, no smile, soup was carelessly put on the table without us ordering it. No questions asked how we would like the meat. 12 euros tip was still given, but no Slivowitz or anything like that. Went again after 40 minutes. But the food was very good
Olaf Oberkalkofen . 2024-12-13
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Very cozy, long-established restaurant, close to the DIN station. The walls and the small tables make for a very nice atmosphere. Attentive staff, resulting in quick service. I had the hacienda skewer, unfortunately I forgot that the meat was supposed to be medium well, but I wasn't asked. It was medium, still ok, I'll pay attention to that next time. There was salad from the salad buffet, which I thought was great. Price-performance ok. Overall, you can definitely recommend the restaurant.
K. B. . 2024-12-13
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We went there for dinner last night. Our grill plates were OK, but nothing more. It all looked so loveless. Not a bit beautifully prepared, e.g. a few onion rings, or a lettuce leaf, maybe a pepperoni. What we didn't like at all were the waiters. I can immediately name at least two restaurants where the service is much friendlier. We won't come here anymore.
Rüdiger Bolz . 2024-12-11
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Best meat 1a Always fresh from the grill!!! Always grilled to perfection 😄
Falk Juergen . 2024-12-09
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Super rustic atmosphere, nice waiters
Simona Wiedermann . 2024-12-08
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Super delicious food every time I'm in Germany
Gabi Meier . 2024-12-06
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The dishes we ordered were carelessly cooked and presented. The service was quick but not necessarily friendly. In my opinion, the furnishings are no longer entirely up to date.
Wolfgang Keddi . 2024-12-05
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Price performance has been excellent for so many years 👍🏻
O S . 2024-11-30
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Very nice long-established restaurant, very nice and quick service. Rich salad buffet and lots of choice. Good food and reasonable prices.
Julia Breucking . 2024-11-26
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We were there again after a long time. Food was very, very tasty, we were all (5 people) satisfied. Unfortunately, we had the worst-tempered waiter that evening. Too bad. Conclusion: No tip. Otherwise highly recommended.
Claudia Sauder . 2024-11-19
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Was there for dinner for the first time. The steak was medium rare and super tender. Very tasty and highly recommended.
Sabine . 2024-11-18
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Went for a meal according to menu with about 20 people The food was very good and tasty was served promptly The service was present but not intrusive The price/performance ratio was more than OK😋😋😋
Jürgen Voll . 2024-11-17
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Very nice restaurant with good food and service. Would love to come back.
Heiko Reepen . 2024-11-10
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Service, quality and service top
Katrin B . 2024-11-09
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Very tasty, quick and very friendly. Can only recommend 👍👍👍👍
Andreas Langner . 2024-10-28
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Always delicious. Service top 👍🏽⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Alina . 2024-10-27
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⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ A real highlight in Dinslaken! The hacienda has been impressing for years with its stylish ambience, excellent food and attentive service. The steak was perfectly cooked and the side dishes were fresh. Particularly noteworthy is the great wine selection and the fair price-performance ratio. Perfect for a special meal – highly recommended!
Felix Ülhoff . 2024-10-26
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I wouldn't order anything outside the house again, as I was very disappointed with the grill plate. In contrast, when you eat in a restaurant, the food there always tastes very good.
Edda PRAGER . 2024-10-19
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As always, a very good meal with very nice staff...
Oliver Pinguingorilla8 . 2024-10-19
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Very busy at lunchtime, that says it all. We felt very comfortable, the dog was also allowed in, which is no longer a given these days. Very friendly and accommodating. The food was deliciously prepared and very tasty. You feel comfortable here.
Daniela Schoenfelder . 2024-10-14
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We had booked a table for 4 a week in advance and the receptionist was unable to locate our booking. He left us standing at the door for a full 10 minutes until he took us to a room that resembled a cheap chip shop. The waiter was very unpleasant when it came to empty drinks. Even my hand signals weren't noticed 😡 I had a grill plate. This time the roasted potatoes were crispy and delicious The meat, on the other hand, was very tasty. The salad in the self-service counter was also very fresh. Conclusion: Very bad service!! We'll never come back!! Not worth a photo!!
Thomas Hübbertz . 2024-10-13
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Price-performance very good. The food is always very tasty and plentiful.
Izzet Mehring . 2024-10-12
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never again, very bad hospitality, some of the food wasn't brought at all and we had to wait a long time for the drinks and no one came to reorder and pay.
Andreas van Laak . 2024-10-11
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I've eaten there many times and it's always delicious.
Manuela Bernewski . 2024-10-08
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For me it was awesome here. The restaurant has a very attractive interior with many seating areas separated by walls and therefore conveys a special cosiness. I had an extremely tasty, super tender Argentinian sirloin steak that doesn't have to hide from some beef fillets. And the whole thing is inexpensive too. All in all an experience. An extra star from me! 🌟 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Will Inger (Willinger) . 2024-10-04
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Food is always great - service is top notch
Ma Ne . 2024-10-01
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Great steaks, spacious rooms, service fast, but no questions asked.
Thomas Kruithof . 2024-09-22
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Old-established restaurant that hasn't lost any of its service and quality over the years! Very attentive staff who, despite being very busy, always look after the guests with quick service. The portions are generous and very tasty. All we can say is five stars plus! Update 09.2024: Little has changed, still good quality, the charcoal grill makes grilling meat even more of an experience!
Logistik Fritsche . 2024-09-19
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Very tasty food, nice staff and nice ambience at moderate prices
Sascha B . 2024-09-16
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The food takes 40 minutes to an hour until it finally arrives But very tasty
Martin Mendl . 2024-09-15
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A friendly smile on the waiter's face would make the visit a lot nicer.
Bettina M. . 2024-09-15
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The salad buffet leaves nothing to be desired and the meat is grilled to perfection.
S. Tonn . 2024-09-15
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Great restaurant, great food, friendly staff.
Oliver Swienty . 2024-09-13
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The food and service were good as always.
Angelika Daniels . 2024-09-10
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Good price-performance ratio. Food very tasty and of good quality.
H B . 2024-09-10
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A nice steakhouse where you can have a good lunch (buffet salad, starter soup, main course)...
Silvio Schmidt . 2024-09-04
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I've been eating there for decades and have never had a complaint. The food tastes good, is perfectly prepared and is of a very high quality. The service is just spotty, if a drink is empty, someone is immediately there to offer a new drink, etc. Everything is sparkling clean, every pane of glass is clear. Every table is clean, nothing has ever been stuck or anything. Everything is perfect here, thank you for that. :-)
Stefan R. . 2024-09-04
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The food portions are very large
Dieter Graue . 2024-09-04
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We have been visiting this restaurant for years. Today we spent our mother's 90th birthday there. With 13 people. Since our mother never manages to finish her favorite dish, we always take something with us. Today I asked if I could take a small salad with me because she didn't take one with her meal. Now the discussion broke out that this wasn't possible. You then deign to allow it. When I was paying, I said something about it again... ha, the waiter continued to argue until my brother ended the whole thing with a sharp sentence. Our bill: 515 euros. The tip was correspondingly economical.
Petra Kohlen . 2024-09-01
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Exceptionally good food, very good quality, attentive and friendly staff and really nice ambience. Highly recommended. Will definitely come back.
Andreas Schumacher . 2024-08-25
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A very good restaurant. Good and tasty food, at a fair price.
Ralf Wildfeuer . 2024-08-22
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Very tasty food with affordable prices. We'd love to come.
Björn Biehl . 2024-08-09
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The food is always delicious. The meat is always cooked to perfection.
Michael . 2024-07-19
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Everything was super tasty and the service was very nice
Traudel Kaczynski . 2024-07-15
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Unfortunately, I don't like the restaurant. The service and waiters are too rude, and the food isn't edible. I ordered goulash soup, and unfortunately, it stinks. So, not zero stars, sorry.